I want to warn you ahead of time that this is a very long blog entry. It will include the embedded videos I am responding to for your viewing. Try to watch the videos in their entirety before reading my comments. The videos of Mark and Frank I was able to post responses to on their YouTube channels. The video of ADM livestream I could not post my comment. It was far too long for YouTube's standards. It is viewed below and I will go over to ADM's video and put a link to this blog article there.
Here is my response to this ADM video that I couldn't put on YouTube because it was too long.
OMG I'm in a Conservative stronghold with a Liberal secondary and I got 1,102 votes in the Federal election! I got 400 more votes than Max Bernier in York Centre! :O
Since this is about everyone’s experiences with the PPC, let me share what I can of mine without getting too in-depth into private conversations or material.
Back before I became a candidate for the PPC, and during my candidacy, I was frequently warned about the ulterior motives of Maxime and the PPC HQ. I laughed at comments that Max was a dictator and seeking a totalitarian authority over what was meant to be a “party of the people”. While I am still divided as to Max’s true intentions, I find that the Party itself is, as someone described it back then, little more than a “Paper Party”.
Last year there was a lot of talk about the need for a Constitution, not so much from the members themselves (candidates, coordinators) but more from the naysayers, ones like Shawn, Nichole, and others. There was that one troll who created multiple accounts and attacked a few of us on Twitter. I think he had 5 accounts running at one time that I know of.
As I was new to the political realm in this newer decade, I did not really question the inner working of the Party itself. I was repeatedly assured that everything was moving ahead as it needed to, and we all had to do our part to raise funds and get new members. It was always about getting new members and member donations with HQ.
So, as I said, I did not really care much about the Constitution and even corrected a couple trolls, like Shawn, that I was not the one asking where a Constitution was. I figured we would have one if not before then immediately following the election. I thought that is what the convention thing in Ottawa was meant to do, come up with all the structure from the members who could afford to attend (on their own dime).
We, as an EDA, were mostly left in the dark. Our local Rep was never available to answer questions so I would email to one of the ‘higher ups’ who would provide us with some guidance on questions. He and I also had a lot of frank discussions about some of the naysayers and concerns I had of a couple local issues.
All during the campaign my supporters believed that contributions made to PPC National would trickle down to us. They were shocked when we told them that PPC National did not support us financially in any way. I asked a couple times if we could not, at least, get the money generated by memberships in our riding.
My EDA thought that was a reasonable request, I thought, it was not even barely $1,750 IF everyone paid their full dues and I knew many were Free founding members. I asked HQ, through the proper channels, at least twice for financial support. Nothing. Our EDA was paid for financially by two of us. Justin, who had founded it, and myself, I think we spent over $1,500 between the two of us on everything from pens to banners to advertising. At least a quarter of that before we were “officially” an EDA. Yes, all VOLUNTARY all paid for by US. Not a dime from PPC National.
My campaign was paid for by me and donations from our local members and supporters (see Elections Canada website, we filed our paperwork before most of the other EDAs and National). Again, PPC National contributed ZERO.
And not only that, the PPC National, continued harassing our local riding members for donations, on top of what we were trying to get from them to pay for my campaign and the EDA operations. Countless emails from “Maxime Bernier” hitting them up for $1, $2, $3, and so on. I remember complaining once about that to the Regional co-ordinator who would take my questions. Answer from PPC National HQ – NOTHING.
I agree with Frank when he says that the PPC HQ attitude was "ignore it and it will go away". We had an incident involving an EDA member. I spoke to a Co-ordinator when the story first broke and I told them we should hit it head on and end any rumours. I was told HQ said to leave it alone and let the story die.
Well, six months later we're campaigning and a candidate, totally unrelated to our riding, was asked about the controversial story. It led to a day of frenzied calls and texts, and a statement that Global ended up pretending didn't exist and instead said "PPC declined to comment". After the dust settled that same Co-ordinator came back to me and said that I was right and we should have dealt with it months before. But that was the HQ policy, if we didn't come up with it you need to be quiet and ignore it and it'll go away. Nothing ever goes away.
There was constantly the feeling of a lack of leadership and structure. I do not remember how many times I was frustrated that our local Rep was unreachable so I would keep talking to, I guess he was one of the National co-ordinators? I am trying not to give any names of them because I do not have my notes in front of me.
This isn’t about naming names so much as sharing that the frustration Frank Vaughan experienced, and he was a lot better connected to HQ than I was, is very much real. And, in 35 years in retail, from pushing carts to running businesses I do not understand how an organization with millions of dollars passing through it could be allowed to be so disorganized, or clandestine for a public political party. But I guess that’s what Corporations are in the end, secret clubs where only a select few really know what is going on behind the curtain.
I will tell you something about Maxime Bernier and the West. Maxime lost the West. The only way he could have won it against the CONservatives was if he had risen up as a Provincial leader, not a new Federal Party with a leader from Quebec. I do not know how many times I heard, and fought against, that mentality. Not another leader from Quebec! Well, both Scheer and Trudeau were born in Ontario, so I don’t see in the end what difference it really makes where your roots are, or who you persuade to vote for you.
I am from Ontario and, culturally, we were raised to dislike Quebec. It did not bother me that Maxime was from Quebec. Who cares so long as he is fighting for all Canadians, right? The West, though, they keep shooting themselves in the foot. They blame the East for Trudeau and constantly bad mouth the East, even though many people in the East support Alberta and a united Canada. But it was all about the “99% of us” with our heads in the sand eh Mark?
The election came and went, and then everyone at HQ seemed to go on vacation. Christmas came, New Years, and it was just when Covid was starting up in early March that there was a little activity. Not much though, overall people were still left wondering where was Max and what was the PPC up to?
So, I think it was March or April that I started asking where the Constitution was that they kept promising us. I had filled out the, what was it called, the form the candidates completed anonymously on their experiences with the PPC process. I did not fill mine out in secret, I put my name on it and invited them to contact me for more information. PPC National HQ response – NOTHING.
I remember they told us at one point we should start holding meetings. I explained to them first that the dead of winter wasn’t a good time to try and hold meetings in rural Ontario, and then the excuse was the government was threatening lockdowns. It did not make sense to organize things and pay for advertising and meeting spaces (if we could find any) and then be told we were not allowed to hold a meeting. This was one example of how the PPC HQ had blinders on to everyone outside of the big cities, or even their office it seemed.
Around June, they called for a new Regional Coordinator for our area. I asked casually about it and someone sent me the job description, list of duties, and said if I were interested to let them know. I read over the paperwork, asked a couple friends, and after FIVE DAYS – TWO of them the weekend. I sent an email inquiring about applying for the position. I was told – it had already been filled by someone qualified who did not take so long to respond. … Respond to what? I had not even said I was applying, nor did they give me a deadline to get back to them. After that I had had enough, and, combined with health issues I’d been fighting with since November, I decided my piece of mind and personal health was more important than a Party that had left us IN THE DARK for almost 6 months.
Okay, this is supposed to be my notes on watching this video, so let me get back to it.
It is a particularly good question. Where is Max’s book? I mean, wasn’t that one of the cornerstones of his fall from grace with the CPC and another excuse that led to his leaving the “morally corrupt” Party? Granted he was right, the CPC is morally corrupted, any conservative party claiming to be “pragmatic centrist” should have their banner ripped down from their Headquarters. I was happy to have found a Party that was standing up for conservative, or even libertarian, values and was pro-Canadian nationalism and sovereignty.
Alberta hates Quebec because Quebec (and Ontario, and the Maritimes) was getting all of the Equalization payments. Martin, Liberal, was the one who included Alberta’s natural resources as part of the general fund contributions. I’m not using all the fancy lingo here, basically the resources were taxed, and the money went into the general fund. This was then paid out through Equalization payments to the provinces “in need”. Paul Martin set that up (resources as part of calculation), and HARPER did not stop it. It was ascended and passed and took effect under Harper’s reign. He loved the West so much he did truly little to protect it in regard to Equalization payments. Nothing stopped him from doing the very thing the PPC wanted to do, reduce them down to Zero. He had eight years. I think it is ironic that the West separatist movement was, at least at one time, led by a guy from Ontario. A transplant, not even a true Westerner.
The Four Principle Pillars of the PPC – Respect, Fairness, Personal Responsibility and Freedom. They had all but dissolved in the spring. Apparently the PPC House was built on sand, and in those months of silence most of the good candidates (yes, me included) gave up and left. It left behind the far-right, the bitter, the disenfranchised, the libertarians (real ones) and, quite frankly, the ones you probably would not vote for. Not all of them, a few good candidates are still struggling with the hope the PPC will be more than just words on paper. We all thought it would be last year, we honestly did.
Frank Vaughan and I both share a “personal responsibility” to our friends, family, neighbours, everyone we told that they should not listen to the naysayers, the trolls, the Communist Broadcasting Channel, Global TV Hate News and the Cee-no-evilTV news. We owe it to them to keep up the fight. To keep asking the difficult questions. To demand answers, from the Party OF the People. Now, myself, personally, I have moved further away from all of this toward my own hobbies, less stress, less daily attacks from the trolls.
I have a listing of THIRTY names I have been called in the last 18 months and I share it from time to time. If anything, though, running for the PPC did little but build up my strength and character. To be a better me when there are people screaming vitriol and hatred in your face 24 hours a day. I walk away from the PPC with that inner strength, founded on their failing, I guess. In the end, I win.
Let’s talk about this thing Mark was saying, that he and Salim are working on some great plan involving the PPC? Maybe? And standing against the Great Reset. I am certain that Mark has his own pet project, which I forget the name of, in which he can do and say whatever he wants. But I agree with Frank in that there will come a time when he realizes that PPC HQ will do one of two things, take his ideas and give him no credit for them, or, tell him to piss off in a nice politically correct way. The glow will fade and disappear, and he will see the PPC for what it has become, The People’s Party of Canada Corporation, and nothing else. It is almost bordering on a shell corporation at this point. It does not appear to be spending anything in the fight. It would have been better to register as an Activist group than a Political Party at this rate. The momentum to be anything greater is gone.
Maxime was terrible at the debate. I mean, I could have done better. I do not speak French so I would have lost there, but after 10+ years in Government Max does not speak English that well either. I do not hold that against him. I expected to be an MP and barely know enough French to read that side of the cereal box. I figure that is what they pay translators for, while English and French are the official languages, I live in a dominantly English-speaking riding and I’m not trying to be the Leader or even a Cabinet Minister. I just think someone trying to be a Leader would be far better at debating in both English and French.
If the People’s Party of Canada is NOT a Party of One (Max) then how is the open opposition of Maxime Bernier hurting the People’s Party of Canada? People thought Scheer sucked as Leader but the Conservative Party didn’t disappear overnight. It lost members because it was morally and ethically corrupt, not just because their Leader reminded everyone as a Milquetoast Boy Scout.
It is true, Max, and the PPC, monetized populism, but beyond that they do not seem to do much else. Heck even their monetization skills are lacking, one of the things I suggested to them was to set up a PPC Swag store, for the EDAs to buy from, thereby generating “fees” from the EDAs while providing EDAs with low cost mass production uniformity. Response from PPC National HQ – NOTHING.
Maxime was the first politician I wanted to meet in person, in my life. Second would now be Trump, but I know he does not have time for me like Maxime did at the immigration conference or candidate’s announcement conference.
And then there’s Toronto. York Centre. I said it when Max announced it and continued to say it, Toronto is a RED city. It is Liberal. Always has been always will be. It was political suicide to run anywhere in the GTA if you are not either Liberal or a very well-funded Conservative. Running for York Centre, Max lost Quebec, his home, and Ontario, because like Quebec we despise Toronto’s politics and political favour.
So, Bernier lost the West, he lost Quebec, and he’s all but mostly lost Ontario because we don’t like being left in the dark for months. I would be embarrassed, but hell, make $200,000 a year (pay & pension) and you get 642 votes. I make about $21k as a retail clerk (with a campaign budget under $2,500 I think it was) and even I got 1,102 votes in my riding. I do not have much ego but even I feel pretty damn impressed with myself after hearing how abysmally Max failed in York Centre.
I do not like Mark Friesen’s or ADM’s style when it comes to their videos but so what? I agree with Frank, if you want to do it a different way then start your own channel. I tried, for a couple months, but like I said I have moved on to other things.
The PPC killed the multi-million dollar and free advertising momentum they had after the election with seven months of silence. It was almost like the money flowed in, they paid for Max’s campaign (screw the rest of us) and that was it. No keep the tide going, no build on that 280,000 voters and 40,000 members. It was almost like they wanted it to flounder and fail? It is a “not for profit” by the way Mark, not a “non-profit”, there is a difference. In this area, the PPC was already struggling thanks to their stand on supply management. I mean, I live in farm country for goodness sakes! I did not agree with that Party platform point, but it was one Max stood on so much I tried to not bring it up as best I could. I suspect it cost me as many votes as I ultimately ended up winning.
I have, since June, and more particular since September, been calling for the end to Party politics in Canada. And yes, I was asked to run again for the PPC. I respectfully declined; it was right after being told I took too long to apply for Coordinator. Anyways, I am done with Party politics on a Federal level.
I believe now we should have 338 (for lack of better structure) Independent candidates. These independent MPs would then select a new Prime Minster (who I think should be changed to First Minister) by vote, based on merit. The Cabinet members would be selected from the MPs based on merit, and where close, there would be votes cast. The remaining members would be not so much the “opposition” as the ones who agree or disagree on things. The Cabinet members bring forth the ideas from wherever and the members vote for or against. No more voting along Party lines. From now on you vote according to what your riding constituents want not what the King wants. I think MPs should have 2-4 year terms max, then off 1-4 year break, then return (all by vote of course) for 2-4 year terms again before mandatory retirement as MP. Not actual “retirement”, I mean they just can not run as MP again. They would “retire” at minimum 60 like anyone else could. I would call for a cut back in pay to $140,000/year +benefits.
I think the Governor General should be elected. I think the Senators should be elected. And, recall elections, within 2 years of being voted in, for ALL political leader roles from Mayor up to First/Prime Minister. Things would be passed in House of Commons because they were the right thing for Canadians and the majority of Independent MPs agreed.
I think Elections Canada and the election process should be automatic and hands-off. No PM calling By-elections or elections. If a position is vacated max 30 days, then a by-election is called on day 30 to be held 45 days later, except in election years within 6 months of the federal election. If I had been elected MP the first thing I was going to look into was simplifying the Elections Canada processes and Parliamentary structure reform (aka election reform).
This gives candidates the 30 days the position is vacant to be prepared to register and run on that day the election is called. All automatic though, no approval from the PM. Just do it. If a PM loses confidence, then another is voted in by the MPs within a set period. We don’t vote for the PM now, so it won’t be any different really and your MP keeps their position til the next general election or recall within 2 years.
Back to the PPC. They kept pushing the Nationbuilder website, which is clunky, and who had $50/month (some EDAs getting bills for $$$$). I had my campaign site, cost me $12/month, and I had an EDA site, with a redirect that one cost us $1/month. And the PPC National HQ, who could not even give us our own members fees, wanted us forking out $hundreds each month.
A question, why is Maxime Bernier and the PPC National HQ afraid of answering questions of its members? Mark says you can just contact them, well, I’ve sent them four emails (one being that post-mortem, HA I knew I’d remember the name survey) since January 1st, and NOTHING. Heck, when the new “experienced” Regional Coordinator took over, he expected me to do the legwork for him. I told him to contact Justin and I was out of it. That was back in June and I was told in September very little had taken place on the EDA front. The map of proposed EDA coalitions, as it turns out, was almost identical to the one I had proposed and tried to start the ball rolling on with a couple of our neighboring EDA’s (who weren’t interested enough to bother getting back to me) a year earlier. Go figure eh.
Twitter, Instagram? And a YouTube channel with sound and video issues from day one. Hell even Rempel half baked on her living room floor did better videos than the Maxime Bernier Show in 2020. I have not watched it since the beginning of it, maybe it has improved, if it’s even still on? I heard even Mark had more Subscribers than Max at one point.
And Maxime, after losing his home riding what did he do, he became one of “those candidates” like Patrick Brown, who when horribly defeated in one place went to another where he didn’t even live to run. Though, I am not sure, was Patrick Brown from Brampton? Either way he went from Premier to Mayor, ouch! But Maxime, went into the lion’s den in Red Toronto to do what? Lose again? Get lots of donations, lots of money flowing IN, for what? Who is behind the scenes suggesting such a terrible political strategy, if not Max’s ego? Though at this point Max does not even need to be an MP, his paycheque still keeps coming in while having someone else spew out a tweet or Instagram pic here or there. I wish I made $200k a year doing that.
Frank said there is a point you lost faith in Max as leader. For me, that was June 2020.
On the topic of the Constitution, no one seems to talk about the fact that, before the Bloc uprising in 2019, Quebec wanted to re-open negotiations about the Charter and possibly join Canada. Justin Trudeau said No.
If I ran again, which I do not think I will for a while, it would be as an Independent. Party Politics is too corrupt.
I am preparing one giant article of my comments on this video, but I did get this comment back from Mark (when I replied to his video trashing Frank).
Mark Friesen: “Did you see the adm livestream where I asked repeatedly to get me in and he finally relented and brought me in?”
I sat up until 6am in the morning, watching that video, this one I am commenting on now, here’s what I see in the comments:
Mark came on to chat and commented at 1:12:54, ADM said a couple things and Frank said some things, neither of them invited Mark onto the livestream because he was not invited to be a part of it to begin with.
That being noted, ADM should have invited him. It seemed odd to have Frank responding to Mark’s comments with critickill thinker and ADM but not have Mark on?
I did not like the way ADM was badgering Mark after sending him the link (if I recall this took place after Leo left). It was sent in his Twitter, while everyone was on YouTube, and it takes time to jump around to various mediums. I will give Mark 2 minute grace on that.
Anyways, let’s look at Mark’s comments during the stream until he was sent the link and joined at 1:22:24 after Leo left at 1:19:57. To be honest, I found Mark’s request to join unprofessional and watching it unfold I do not feel that ADM “finally relented” and let him on. The entire process, buried in dozens of other tweets, took less than 10 minutes. Adding to that several of Mark’s tweets were shared on the main screen, hardly the strategy of someone trying not to include someone in the conversation.
It should be noted only Mark’s comments are below, to show he did push to be brought on five times. I don’t know what was being said in chat or outside of the stream, but verbally neither ADM nor Frank refused to add Mark. Frank didn’t have the power to and ADM may have responded slower, but you must also take into account dozens of chat comments and a conversation or response to main screen comments made during that same time.
Mark Friesen *GrizzlyPatriot* *FFCS*Bring me on
Mark Friesen *GrizzlyPatriot* *FFCS*Whoaaaaa I never said I’m done with the ppc
Mark Friesen *GrizzlyPatriot* *FFCS*Negative. He has not.
Mark Friesen *GrizzlyPatriot* *FFCS*I challenged him to a discussion.
Mark Friesen *GrizzlyPatriot* *FFCS*Bring me on.
Mark Friesen *GrizzlyPatriot* *FFCS*Frank refuses me. Wtf are talking about
Mark Friesen *GrizzlyPatriot* *FFCS*Haha. No you don’t. Bring me on.
Mark Friesen *GrizzlyPatriot* *FFCS*So you won’t bring me on? I’m not hijacking anything. Your asking me questions I want to answer.
Mark Friesen *GrizzlyPatriot* *FFCS*I won’t have you dictate terms
Mark Friesen *GrizzlyPatriot* *FFCS*Bring me on.
Mark Friesen *GrizzlyPatriot* *FFCS*Is this not a platform for everyone? Now I’m hijacking the stream? I’m just trying to be open. You wont do it.
Mark Friesen *GrizzlyPatriot* *FFCS*Like what? I came in and said it was a good talk about the senate.
Mark Friesen *GrizzlyPatriot* *FFCS*Haha. You guys are hilarious. My money is right here. Bring be on!
Mark Friesen *GrizzlyPatriot* *FFCS*A loser? Never called him a loser
Mark Friesen *GrizzlyPatriot* *FFCS*Unreal.
Mark Friesen *GrizzlyPatriot* *FFCS*Where’s the link?
As livestreams go though, Mark could be seen as “hijacking” the conversation, HOWEVER, ADM did not invite Mark to begin with and I feel this should have been done. Both Mark and Frank had done their own videos against each other, this seemed like ADM siding with Frank and stifling Mark.
That being said, it’s ADM’s channel. If Mark wanted to have a head to head with Frank through ADM he could have just as easily asked ADM to set it up. Personally, though I think Kelly Lamb would have been a much better moderator, ADM is clearly pro-Frank which is unfair in moderating a debate (we get enough of that from CBC).
So that’s my $5 worth. Like I said I’m putting these in one big article on my blog with the embedded videos, probably tomorrow.
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